Difference between revisions of "Light Switches (Elise/Exige S1)"

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This page should contain info pulled from forum threads around S1 light switches. It is very much a work in progress at present.

Source

These switches are found in Peugeot 205s and 106s with the same cover. However neither car uses them for head/side lights (see cross compatibility for options). The same design switch mechanism also appears to have been uses on the 306 with a different cover design. Apparently they were made by TRW (whoever that may be), but there may be multiple suppliers as there were two cover clip designs.

Removal

Do not be tempted to pull at the switches in the car. This will remove the cover from the switch but not switch body from the car.

Removal procedure

Take off both* plastic dash trims (one for the light switches and the other surrounds the heater controls) off by squeezing together till you can extract one edge. Be careful though as the upper lip of the insert can scratch at the senotex paint on the top dash panel and reuin it. Use something like a credit card or anything that is thin and plastic to protect the paint). * May be possible without removing heater insert.

Unscrew the two philips screws that hold the dash top to the aluminium switch plate, followed by the two philips screws that hold the aluminium switch plate to the lower aluminium dash.

Loosen the STACK, a hinged and ratcheted spanner may help or long extension bars (careful not to scratch the steering wheel cowl). You ONLY need to loosen the stack off sufficient to be able to wiggle off the aluminium dash top off.

Once you have all that off, the switches can be seen in full, don’t be tempted to just pull on the cap of the switch as all you’ll be doing if you’re luck is pull of the cap leaving the full switch still in position and if not so lucky, you’ll have snapped off the lugs holding the cap on the switch

To remove a switch disconnect the female plug (the harness is only just long enough to reach the location of each switch).

From behind squeeze the switch body clips that hold the switch body into the aluminium switch plate and extract.

An alternatively method is to completely remove the steering wheel cowl, stack, plastic trim covers. This takes longer but gives more access and less chance of damaging trim.

Replacement Switches

New (and even used) headlight switches rarely come up for sale. Hazard, fog and heated rear screen are a lot more common as these were the ones used by Peugeot. Fortunately the two common switches can be used as substitutes for the less common variants by swapping the icons (see below).

Sidelight == Headlight == Hazard

Fog == Heated screen

Swapping Icons

Swapping the icon is really easy, they appear just to be clipped in. There are two ways to swap.

The whole black front with icon can be swapped however there are two clip designs. (need pic of two clips types)

The other way is just swapping the icon. This bit appears to have the same design on both front types. The icon is only clipped in so it is simple to push out (from behind) and then push into the new switch.

Changing the switch tell tail blub

The bulb is an LED. TBC this can be changed from the rear of the assembled switch. In the centre is a torpedo shaped peg. Removal should be a case of pulling on this.

(need pic of rear of switch)

Correct Order

From steering wheel out;

Side light switch
Head light switch
Fog light switch
Hazard lights switch
Spare dummy switch

Switch Schematics

From the schematics, headlight, sidelight and hazard switch are the same internally, fog is different. The hazard schematic is drawn back to front but the connections are the same.

Interchangeable

Sidelight == Headlight == Hazard

Fog == Heated screen

Peugeot part numbers

These are from from a 205N

6553 20 : rear fog light
6553 21 : hazard flasher (some hazards are red, some black, I believe this number to be the black version based on a purchased brand new part)
6553 22 : rear window heating (demister)
6553 24 : fog lights
6553 25 : refridgerating (?) AC cooling
6553 38 : heating seat
6553 39 : heating pump

https://arc.seloc.org/viewthread.php?tid=345477 https://arc.seloc.org/viewthread.php?tid=374720

eBay search link that has produced good matches in the past; https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=peugeot+205+106+switch&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=1&LH_PrefLoc=3&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=4

Useful Videos

Here are a few videos by Stefan3 showing disassembly/testing of switches.

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 ==Source==
-switches are from 205 / 106, may be 306 (internals the same need to swap whole of cover) ?, but never seen the main light one
+These switches are found in Peugeot 205s and 106s with the same cover. However neither car uses them for head/side lights (see cross compatibility for options). The same design switch mechanism also appears to have been uses on the 306 with a different cover design. Apparently they were made by TRW (whoever that may be), but there may be multiple suppliers as there were two cover clip designs.
-they're made by TRW, but I never found a cross ref list anywhere
-when you get the switches it is easy to pull off the cap and swap over the icon, be very careful not to snap the lugs off the caps when you pull it apart,
+==Removal==
+Do not be tempted to pull at the switches in the car. This will remove the cover from the switch but not switch body from the car.
+Removal procedure
+* Take off both* plastic dash trims (one for the light switches and the other surrounds the heater controls) off by squeezing together till you can extract one edge. Be careful though as the upper lip of the insert can scratch at the senotex paint on the top dash panel and reuin it. Use something like a credit card or anything that is thin and plastic to protect the paint). * May be possible without removing heater insert.
-==Removal==
+* Unscrew the two philips screws that hold the dash top to the aluminium switch plate, followed by the two philips screws that hold the aluminium switch plate to the lower aluminium dash.
-the first time I took out the light switch housing I took off first both plastic covers surrounding the light switches and the one surrounding the heater controls, then the steering column cowling and and finally the stack itself off
-That was the first time, now the only things I do to get out the light switches is:
+* Loosen the STACK, a hinged and ratcheted spanner may help or long extension bars (careful not to scratch the steering wheel cowl). You ONLY need to loosen the stack off sufficient to be able to wiggle off the aluminium dash top off.
-take off both plastic surrounds (using something like a credit card or anything thats thin and plastic so not to scratch the paint), one for the light switches and the other thats surrounds the heater controls,
+* Once you have all that off, the switches can be seen in full, don’t be tempted to just pull on the cap of the switch as all you’ll be doing if you’re luck is pull of the cap leaving the full switch still in position and if not so lucky, you’ll have snapped off the lugs holding the cap on the switch
-then unscrew the two philips screws that hold the dash top to the ali switch plate, followed by the two philips screws that hold the ali switch plate to the ali dash
+* To remove a switch disconnect the female plug (the harness is only just long enough to reach the location of each switch).
-s26.postimg.org/6iwtadjhl/dash3.png
+* From behind squeeze the switch body clips that hold the switch body into the aluminium switch plate and extract.
-then by using one of these spanners that are both hinged and have a ratchet
+An alternatively method is to completely remove the steering wheel cowl, stack, plastic trim covers. This takes longer but gives more access and less chance of damaging trim.
-s26.postimg.org/z60ts1und/P1050480-_SMALL.jpg
+==Replacement Switches==
+New (and even used) headlight switches rarely come up for sale. Hazard, fog and heated rear screen are a lot more common as these were the ones used by Peugeot. Fortunately the two common switches can be used as substitutes for the less common variants by swapping the icons (see below).
-you ONLY need to loosen the stack off sufficient to be able to wiggle off the ali dash top off, it’s the way I’ve been getting the light switches off ever since my first attempt, but if you feel more comfortable taking off the everything then thats fine too
+Sidelight == Headlight == Hazard
-once you have all that off, the switches can be seen in full, don’t be tempted to just pull on the cap of the switch as all you’ll be doing if you’re luck is pull of the cap leaving the full switch still in position and if not so lucky, you’ll have snapped off the lugs holding the cap on the switch
+Fog == Heated screen
-s26.postimg.org/6fwxt7fhl/switch_1.png
+==Swapping Icons==
+Swapping the icon is really easy, they appear just to be clipped in. There are two ways to swap.
-so once you can see the back of the switches prise them apart at the point of the arrow
+The whole black front with icon can be swapped however there are two clip designs.
+(need pic of two clips types)
-s26.postimg.org/e9xjelnah/P1180889-_SMALL-.jpg
+The other way is just swapping the icon. This bit appears to have the same design on both front types. The icon is only clipped in so it is simple to push out (from behind) and then push into the new switch.
-then from behind you can start to squees the holding lugs on the switch to push it forward and out of the ali holder
+==Changing the switch tell tail blub==
+The bulb is an LED. TBC this can be changed from the rear of the assembled switch. In the centre is a torpedo shaped peg. Removal should be a case of pulling on this.
-it is a lot easer than my writing makes it out to be, the female part are all colour coded (well mine are) and the wiring is just long enough for the right location, so shouldn’t make an error re finding them in the right location
+(need pic of rear of switch)
 ==Correct Order==
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 [[File:fogswitch.jpg]]
-From the schematics, headlight, sidelight and hazard switch are the same internally, fog is different. The hazard schematic to drawn back to front but the connections are the same.
+From the schematics, headlight, sidelight and hazard switch are the same internally, fog is different. The hazard schematic is drawn back to front but the connections are the same.
+Interchangeable
+Sidelight == Headlight == Hazard
+Fog == Heated screen
 ==Peugeot part numbers==
 These are from from a 205N
 *6553 20 : rear fog light
-*6553 21 : hazard flasher (not sure if this one is red boddied)
+*6553 21 : hazard flasher (some hazards are red, some black, I believe this number to be the black version based on a purchased brand new part)
 *6553 22 : rear window heating (demister)
 *6553 24 : fog lights
 *6553 25 : refridgerating (?) AC cooling
 *6553 38 : heating seat
-*6553 39 : heating pump (the one I used)
+*6553 39 : heating pump
 https://arc.seloc.org/viewthread.php?tid=345477
 https://arc.seloc.org/viewthread.php?tid=374720
+eBay search link that has produced good matches in the past;
+https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=peugeot+205+106+switch&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=1&LH_PrefLoc=3&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=4
 ==Useful Videos==
+Here are a few videos by Stefan3 showing disassembly/testing of switches.
 *https://youtu.be/kj0eLRtZHCE
 *https://youtu.be/zz1XKdTHHtA
+*https://youtu.be/aaH-ympUHz0
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